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	<title>Comments on: Oil Ministry expert: no KRG payments</title>
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		<title>By: Turbon</title>
		<link>http://www.iraqoilreport.com/politics/national-politics/oil-minister-adviser-no-krg-payments-2366/#comment-20592</link>
		<dc:creator>Turbon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 21:56:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I will say even more!

Since the central administration happily sells the Kurdistan oil on export and puts the money in the national oil fund how hard is it to follow the constituion and pay DNO or Hertiage(Genel) their proven payment? Their deals has previous been adopted by you and now suddenly you wont live up to this promise? How come? How do You want us forreign investors to valuate the risk in Iraq or Kurdistan as of my intresst. For the moment... - you have waste potential but you have to solve the necessity of an oil law to the best of all - and I mean all Iraqis! Otherwise you will only be accused to make the best for a few, as your family - your tribe or whatever you do it for. IT HAS TO BE FOR THE WHOLE OF IRAQ. IF YOUR TRIBE LOOSES BY IT SHOUT THIS OUT TO THE WHOLE WORLD AND ALLAH WILL SEE THIS! If you think this is important of course. Now, draw back the 12&#039;th divisions since thats not a very good idea. To get peace in Iraq, keep the old borders that mainly old people agree to - they know whats real and what was unreal (Saddams ideas). Divide the country into a federation of states, let every state export oil and the central administration take a tax from it ~ 10% or what you think you need. Use this tax to give back to the regions that aren&#039;t so profitable - to eaven up the income of Iraq. The main thing is that the central administration doesn&#039;t get too well paid. As in other contries they don&#039;t do very much money - but the do have a jobb for life :-) ( If they are good enough I wan&#039;t to add...).

All not so effective should be passed down the ladder until they are thrown out and of course tribal belonging has nothing to do with this. Iraq is a mix of many tribes so who decides who is better than the other? Bribery and sectarianism would of course be punished harder than elsewhere.

In my thoughts above I have partly given hints of how Iraq can get up the top of itself - there are much more of course. But to a sick nation trying to heal from almost a decenium of war, poverty and untrust... I believe the first step is in building trust - make in uneconomical to try to gain on bribery... So many people is killed due to this. You need to be fas and strong on this - know where the glitches are and show the rest of Iraq and the world that you have the upper hand on this issue! The ones taking bribes are the ones taking responsibility of the consequenses - easy as that! After a while you will have people of trust in every position.

As a last point, see Iraq as a whole - turkmen, kurds and arabs (I could have called you sunnis and shias but a state should never be runned by priests - their job is to get us married and carry us to the next world whatever our religion might be!). Neithe can it be ruled by families or tribes believing that they are more fitting to do the job - no. Open lists in the elections is the magic - you don&#039;t even make a new ethnical ( that sounds so Saddam ) count in Kirkuk ( since it is historically before Saddams exodus movement absolutely Kurdish in ethnical majority - I believe turkmrn there were many, many more than arabs! What a thought! ) Now the main thing is if to elect after the lists made a year after Saddams fall? When the exodus was as far sa it could get... Hehehe - I don&#039;t feel as I am fooled by this - the plan seems to be quite open to everybody to just grasp and understand from this very text!

I still se secterian movement in Iraq! I still see that Bagdad as always trying to arabize all regions - but remember - we foreigners still see Kirkuk as a part of Kurdistan. Whatever the reason you sent the 12&#039;th division! 

After the kurdish issue is set with an prosperious people - maybe, just maybe you Sunnis and Shias can start understand that an idea of what passed 1500 years ago might not be worth killing for or be killed for... When you have grasped this it might be the time to tell the world about your understanding of the profets words - after that - welcome home all those who missunderstood the words - qaida, talibanis ect.

War and fight will not take us anywhere - talks will. And everybody have their agendas for talks. Not all talks will be succesfull - maybe your opponent isn&#039;t the right one - is that an argument to blow his head of? Off course not - find the right oppenent... Is - that a problem? Thats ordinary democracy... Don&#039;t want to be a part of anything where you can&#039;t set the agenda - what kind of talk is that?

Sorry to say that is the talk of sectarians, warlord of regions, al-quaida without an capital a before the hyphen, pretty much the state of Iraq, Iran and Afganistan for the moment. Everyone tries to get in top of eachother if it be nations, regions, religious clerks - just name them - shure, they are in the list!!!

The only ones to take as friends for the momen are the kurds who seems to grasp some democratic values and see a value in them...

The rest of Iraq still doesn&#039;t see the value of true democracy an a transparrent opendness where bribery and sectarism is easily pinpointed and prosecuted!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will say even more!</p>
<p>Since the central administration happily sells the Kurdistan oil on export and puts the money in the national oil fund how hard is it to follow the constituion and pay DNO or Hertiage(Genel) their proven payment? Their deals has previous been adopted by you and now suddenly you wont live up to this promise? How come? How do You want us forreign investors to valuate the risk in Iraq or Kurdistan as of my intresst. For the moment... - you have waste potential but you have to solve the necessity of an oil law to the best of all - and I mean all Iraqis! Otherwise you will only be accused to make the best for a few, as your family - your tribe or whatever you do it for. IT HAS TO BE FOR THE WHOLE OF IRAQ. IF YOUR TRIBE LOOSES BY IT SHOUT THIS OUT TO THE WHOLE WORLD AND ALLAH WILL SEE THIS! If you think this is important of course. Now, draw back the 12'th divisions since thats not a very good idea. To get peace in Iraq, keep the old borders that mainly old people agree to - they know whats real and what was unreal (Saddams ideas). Divide the country into a federation of states, let every state export oil and the central administration take a tax from it ~ 10% or what you think you need. Use this tax to give back to the regions that aren't so profitable - to eaven up the income of Iraq. The main thing is that the central administration doesn't get too well paid. As in other contries they don't do very much money - but the do have a jobb for life <img src='http://www.iraqoilreport.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  ( If they are good enough I wan't to add...).</p>
<p>All not so effective should be passed down the ladder until they are thrown out and of course tribal belonging has nothing to do with this. Iraq is a mix of many tribes so who decides who is better than the other? Bribery and sectarianism would of course be punished harder than elsewhere.</p>
<p>In my thoughts above I have partly given hints of how Iraq can get up the top of itself - there are much more of course. But to a sick nation trying to heal from almost a decenium of war, poverty and untrust... I believe the first step is in building trust - make in uneconomical to try to gain on bribery... So many people is killed due to this. You need to be fas and strong on this - know where the glitches are and show the rest of Iraq and the world that you have the upper hand on this issue! The ones taking bribes are the ones taking responsibility of the consequenses - easy as that! After a while you will have people of trust in every position.</p>
<p>As a last point, see Iraq as a whole - turkmen, kurds and arabs (I could have called you sunnis and shias but a state should never be runned by priests - their job is to get us married and carry us to the next world whatever our religion might be!). Neithe can it be ruled by families or tribes believing that they are more fitting to do the job - no. Open lists in the elections is the magic - you don't even make a new ethnical ( that sounds so Saddam ) count in Kirkuk ( since it is historically before Saddams exodus movement absolutely Kurdish in ethnical majority - I believe turkmrn there were many, many more than arabs! What a thought! ) Now the main thing is if to elect after the lists made a year after Saddams fall? When the exodus was as far sa it could get... Hehehe - I don't feel as I am fooled by this - the plan seems to be quite open to everybody to just grasp and understand from this very text!</p>
<p>I still se secterian movement in Iraq! I still see that Bagdad as always trying to arabize all regions - but remember - we foreigners still see Kirkuk as a part of Kurdistan. Whatever the reason you sent the 12'th division! </p>
<p>After the kurdish issue is set with an prosperious people - maybe, just maybe you Sunnis and Shias can start understand that an idea of what passed 1500 years ago might not be worth killing for or be killed for... When you have grasped this it might be the time to tell the world about your understanding of the profets words - after that - welcome home all those who missunderstood the words - qaida, talibanis ect.</p>
<p>War and fight will not take us anywhere - talks will. And everybody have their agendas for talks. Not all talks will be succesfull - maybe your opponent isn't the right one - is that an argument to blow his head of? Off course not - find the right oppenent... Is - that a problem? Thats ordinary democracy... Don't want to be a part of anything where you can't set the agenda - what kind of talk is that?</p>
<p>Sorry to say that is the talk of sectarians, warlord of regions, al-quaida without an capital a before the hyphen, pretty much the state of Iraq, Iran and Afganistan for the moment. Everyone tries to get in top of eachother if it be nations, regions, religious clerks - just name them - shure, they are in the list!!!</p>
<p>The only ones to take as friends for the momen are the kurds who seems to grasp some democratic values and see a value in them...</p>
<p>The rest of Iraq still doesn't see the value of true democracy an a transparrent opendness where bribery and sectarism is easily pinpointed and prosecuted!</p>
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		<title>By: Turbon</title>
		<link>http://www.iraqoilreport.com/politics/national-politics/oil-minister-adviser-no-krg-payments-2366/#comment-20589</link>
		<dc:creator>Turbon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 20:31:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The exports better be stopped then until a oil law is in place for the whole of Iraq!

I believe the movement of the 12´th division to the Kirkuk area is a part of the Iraq oil law and must therfore give a warning to all international investors that the agreements you make today may not be worth the paper you sign them on! Untill the Kirkuk issue is solved, how easy would it be to build a meetering station parallel to the Iraqi one to the north? How well protected is the Iraqi pipe to the north (hint, hint - the last blaste meerely a week ago?).

This has of course be solved thru politics and to get anywhere - arabs are not better than kurds or turkmenians. If you ever believed so. You live together in Iraq - make the best for all of yourselves without trying to get benefits for your own region, tribe, local willage, family - well I don&#039;t know how much further your divide your soceity... 

One is not better or more worthy than the other - is this so hard to comprehend?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The exports better be stopped then until a oil law is in place for the whole of Iraq!</p>
<p>I believe the movement of the 12´th division to the Kirkuk area is a part of the Iraq oil law and must therfore give a warning to all international investors that the agreements you make today may not be worth the paper you sign them on! Untill the Kirkuk issue is solved, how easy would it be to build a meetering station parallel to the Iraqi one to the north? How well protected is the Iraqi pipe to the north (hint, hint - the last blaste meerely a week ago?).</p>
<p>This has of course be solved thru politics and to get anywhere - arabs are not better than kurds or turkmenians. If you ever believed so. You live together in Iraq - make the best for all of yourselves without trying to get benefits for your own region, tribe, local willage, family - well I don't know how much further your divide your soceity... </p>
<p>One is not better or more worthy than the other - is this so hard to comprehend?</p>
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		<title>By: HEH</title>
		<link>http://www.iraqoilreport.com/politics/national-politics/oil-minister-adviser-no-krg-payments-2366/#comment-19883</link>
		<dc:creator>HEH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 16:55:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This attitude of accepting the revenue, but not the cost and a regime neglicting the constitution of the country at the point when the contracts were made, create an environment of distrust. A distrust which is damaging for the country and it people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This attitude of accepting the revenue, but not the cost and a regime neglicting the constitution of the country at the point when the contracts were made, create an environment of distrust. A distrust which is damaging for the country and it people.</p>
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		<title>By: Baghdad's Kassakhoon</title>
		<link>http://www.iraqoilreport.com/politics/national-politics/oil-minister-adviser-no-krg-payments-2366/#comment-19839</link>
		<dc:creator>Baghdad's Kassakhoon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 08:02:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On what basis the Sulaimaniyah administration invited Turkey&#039;s Genel Enerji in 2002 to explore for oil in Taq Taq oil field at a time when the region was not under the control of the Iraqi central government and was instead under an international protection from the UN and U.S.-led coalition forces? Did the then international protection offer the needed legal cover and then the legitimacy to do so; inviting and oil company on no-bid basis from a local leader (Jalal Talabani) in an obscure terms?

And on what basis also the Erbil administration took the same step and invited DNO to explore for oil in Dahouk area in 2004 while the country was going through a transitional period?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On what basis the Sulaimaniyah administration invited Turkey's Genel Enerji in 2002 to explore for oil in Taq Taq oil field at a time when the region was not under the control of the Iraqi central government and was instead under an international protection from the UN and U.S.-led coalition forces? Did the then international protection offer the needed legal cover and then the legitimacy to do so; inviting and oil company on no-bid basis from a local leader (Jalal Talabani) in an obscure terms?</p>
<p>And on what basis also the Erbil administration took the same step and invited DNO to explore for oil in Dahouk area in 2004 while the country was going through a transitional period?</p>
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		<title>By: Turbon</title>
		<link>http://www.iraqoilreport.com/politics/national-politics/oil-minister-adviser-no-krg-payments-2366/#comment-19761</link>
		<dc:creator>Turbon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 18:19:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This has to be solved of course! I vote that the two dozen companies build several pipelines through different stakeholder territories to minimize the risk of embargos. 1 through tyrkie - 1 trough Syria and another one trough Iran! The two dozen companies plus KRG take equal shares in the enterprise.

This will give KRG freedom to invite any company they like to help up the region!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This has to be solved of course! I vote that the two dozen companies build several pipelines through different stakeholder territories to minimize the risk of embargos. 1 through tyrkie - 1 trough Syria and another one trough Iran! The two dozen companies plus KRG take equal shares in the enterprise.</p>
<p>This will give KRG freedom to invite any company they like to help up the region!</p>
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		<title>By: adam</title>
		<link>http://www.iraqoilreport.com/politics/national-politics/oil-minister-adviser-no-krg-payments-2366/#comment-19746</link>
		<dc:creator>adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 15:31:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oil ministry doesnt say no to money coming in from dno export, but they are not ready to pay dno for its oil.


this if anything should tell how truthworthy the ragtags are in the &quot;oil ministry!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oil ministry doesnt say no to money coming in from dno export, but they are not ready to pay dno for its oil.</p>
<p>this if anything should tell how truthworthy the ragtags are in the "oil ministry!"</p>
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		<title>By: LK</title>
		<link>http://www.iraqoilreport.com/politics/national-politics/oil-minister-adviser-no-krg-payments-2366/#comment-19715</link>
		<dc:creator>LK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 10:27:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Do IMF loan money to states who don´t pay the bills of foreign companies&quot; ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"Do IMF loan money to states who don´t pay the bills of foreign companies" ?</p>
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		<title>By: Tore</title>
		<link>http://www.iraqoilreport.com/politics/national-politics/oil-minister-adviser-no-krg-payments-2366/#comment-19707</link>
		<dc:creator>Tore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 09:08:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“Do you pay anybody if you do not have a contract with him?”

Yes, if my Constitution states that all contracts signed with the KRG before the Constitution was ratified shall remain in force.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Do you pay anybody if you do not have a contract with him?”</p>
<p>Yes, if my Constitution states that all contracts signed with the KRG before the Constitution was ratified shall remain in force.</p>
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